
Soooo… this whole week has been spent tearing my hair out over the core physics code. Everything else is being held up by these issues that I’m trying to resolve with the lowest level collision code. Being a physics-based game, Cortex Command’s gameplay is entirely dependent on having this robust foundation, or things really go to pot.
A clear example is the ‘tunneling’ problems, where actors could glitch themselves through the terrain, no matter how hard or thick the materials. The AI-controlled skeleton actors loved to do this in previous test builds. But no more! Although there are still other ways to compromise the terrain through glitches, the major ones have been fixed:

Also, a lot of time and effort was spent experimenting with having invisible physics springs pulling things apart when two objects started to intersect. The initial method I tried failed miserably, resulting in things being very squishy and mushy feeling. I’ll work more on getting the MO-MO collision responses working better, and see if we can’t get a new build out soonish.
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Lookin’ sweet, man!
AWSOME
@nd comment!
Yay no more tunneling skeletons!
“soonish”.
Yay.
Yay new build coming soonish!!!
The second I saw this I thought of the tourettes guy yelling “UPDATE!”
Awesome job.
i can only say this….
thank the lord almighty! i may have gone insane (insaner then i already am) with out word on how it was going. gonna try and shut up until the new build comes out oh and hope you had a great honeymoon
Hey wait..is that a new level!? YAY!
That new level looks fun.
Can’t wait for the next build.
Anyone guessing around a week or 2?
Nice.
Everyone’s been asking for this for ages, and now it’s done! Wewt! Now all those dumb people who refuse to play the game just because of the tunneling problem will have to shut up.
Awesome. Totally awesome. GG, Data.
Yay! Good job, Data!
How’s progress with the AI?
Data wins the internet!
Hey, what’s your wife think of the game Data? Was she a player of CC/Dirt to begin with :3
Thanks for the update Data! Hope it’s going well inside and outside of your workspace/work/Data Realms. That’s great that there won’t be much tunneling in the next build. Thanks again!
Keep up the good work, please!
all the best!
Yay! An update! Woohoo!
what does MO-MO mean?
I’ve never had any real issues with the tunneling, because I always digged the map to be so that the A.I. didn’t start tunneling. :S
Thanks for the update Data!
Hey, in the screenshots you have a cool Debug Mode, could you tell us how to use it?
Also, you have 10 FPS! (The new version is not yet optimized, or the Debug Mode slows down the game? [Or you have a very crappy laptop
]
that looks sweeeeet!!! and i hated that tunneling business so so good work Data!!!
NO TUNNELLING! HOT SHIT! WHOO! (Hope your honeymoon was good.)
Wohoo! This is gonna be soo great!
Oh wait, click on my name too!
DJ Demetrius is right. =P
Yay I hate tunneling. Yeah how bad is your computer.
Data wins the internet!
WOOOOOOOOOOO
OMG! YES!!! NO MORE SKELLIE TUNNELING! W00t!
Totally. Friggin. Awesome.
I didn’t excpect to get an update in a week or two, but this really made my day (although I know we’ll have to wait a bit longer for the build). Just one question. Earlier you said you’d remove the tunneling effect. Now that looks good, but have you managed to improve the AI accordingly? I know it’s a hard process, but if the AI still walks on top of the brain, this build will most likely make the computer even more handicapped. :/ . well, I’m sure you’ve thought of that too, and I’d also guess that you’ve got some kind of solution for it, but a little more info would be nice.
OMG this rules cant wait for the new build keep up the GREAT work Data
hope ya had a great honeymoon
Data you should take over Gods place in heaven by throwing a rock at his shin
This is really cool
.
I wasn’t expecting a new update do the devlog today, but this sounds great! New map too! So in this build we’re seeing:
AI functions
No more tunnels
New weapons(maybe)
New maps(Shown)
Rocket Gibs
Map editor(maybe)
Turrets(Maybe)
Sounds great!
@TSRabbit; you forgot:
Imporved Physic Logics.
That’s probably what I want the most, in it’s current state most mods laggs sooo badly on my computer (my base.rte is kinda messed up).
SFDP, but I looked at that pic again, and I wonder one thing: On the MOIDs screen there’s an object above the blunderbuss to the left that looks a little like a skeleton with an AK (or whatever, I don’t know). However, I can’t see anything on either the color or material screen. Does anybody know what that is, or why it’s there?
YAY! Umm wow haven’t a clue how this works. Has anyone noticed the random meters in the top left corner??
what is moid anyway?
Jeca, I think there has been a delay when Data took those pictures, so I’m guessing the mystery object is the clone from the left
Structured Walls?! =p, this looks great data! keep up the great work. Oh and it would be great if the next build had an mod’s toggle option window. so we could choose what mods to turn on before having to load all of them. [ takes me 18mins+ to play].
Wow.. No more tunnels! this it awsome! No longer will I have a pit of death above my brain room! they’ll just keep on piling up!
Those are good news. ![]()
No more tunneling means more gunfights with the AI.
Good Luck
as Alechs said it wold be great if we could choose mods we want to use
Ok Block, that sound logical. Also some of the other clones have different positions aswell, so I guess you’re right.
And Robburdon, they aren’t random meters. First, you have the gold value, then you’ve got the Milliseconds/frame, then frames/second. I don’t know what real time simulation cap exactly determines but it’s not just a random number, and it’s very important when [programming, modding, editing, wtvr] to know about how many particles and Moids (no, I don’t know what it means) that the computer will have to process.
Yay! No more annoying tunneling skeletons! And could it be that a clone not under the player’s control can actually do something? Awesome. Hopefully, this new build will be out by mid-June.
good to have you back. hope you had a great honeymoon. any chance to have a fembot or a girl to choose from ?
YAY! no more skellie diggin’ unless they dig for my gold that is!
Will there be a way to choose what enemies will spawn?
I hate skellies :/
also we really need some way to define what the AI sends in our direction. like some sorta AI.ini where we could do this
skelleton blunderbuss shield pistol
blueclone lightdigger shield pistol
crusaderclone Hammeroflight
etc. etc. etc.
Atlast no more stupid digging >:U
YAY !!!
But Data our lord and master, could you say soonish of soonish will the soonish be ?
and could you give us changelog whats done this far ?
dont pester him just let him realese it when he wants to
I can imagine a map with a building that is continually assaulted by skeletons, and they get to you by climbing over mountaons of their own dead. 0_0
Goddamit, Mountains, Mountains. And by building I mean something the size of the apocolypse towers.
Yay, no more tunneling!! However, is ’soonish’ in real time or Vavle Time?
By the way, a new map?
AWESOME!!!
That valve time thing = LOL!
Data this is gonna be sweet! we will be able to see our fps! and no more tunneling thank god!
Wow I just used four of these ! in one post.
Uhhh… No we wont be able to see our fps… Thats debug mode or whatever… Cause leik…. Data is making it… So he needs to see that stuff
But that “Particles” meter thing is very usefull for people who want to prevent lag, it helps, so you know when you reach the limit and when to stop blasting stuff
Any way to activate that in the current build?
Im only one who has seen this ? or is it just me who hypes for it ?
look this pic and you see what i mean: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8899/coolnu0.png
@MAXIMDUDE: You can look at the difrent layers in the curent build by pressing the “M” key(but it dosent show the FPS and stuff)
@RTRABBIT: Dont forget the Campain mode
@DATA: Thanks for the update/sneak peak, I hape you had a great time on your honeymoon! Keep up the good work!
I “think” that MOID means MO IDs
also you may notice that when an actor dies that you can still see his body in-game but if you switch to the “Material” layer the body (and anything else that is static like destroyed ships, guns and piles of broken zombie bones)is shown as its material density
Why yes ofcourse Karvabopi. He uses the rocket to get a clean image of the scenery. Or wait. It ways “travel” here, not just “go” here. ZOMFG it’s the patroll mode!!!!11!! Nice work on that one.
Anyway, I can sooo see a rebuild of that “Invasion” map with starship trooper-based enemies. That’d rock so badly.
Wow, I didn’t notice that before. This will be another one of those “revolutionary” builds. Like pretty much every other build so far. Now that it’s an awesome shooter, it’ll also be a strategy!
I just really hope that we’ll be able to modify the AI sometime in the future.
10 FPS? ._.
Yay, so much to look forward to. Hope you had a nice honeymoon!!
Good job, Data. But don’t let this game get ahead of your new wife, things could get bumpy…
good work man, that prob has been annoying me the most.
Will the new physics be more laggy? ._.
It’s never got laggy with me…..
Foogooman, the physics will probably be less laggy, actually.
U_F, the campaign mode probably won’t be in the next build…
Reminds me of the time there was a skele, and he was digging so I shot off his legs and left him and he DUG TO DE BOTTOM OF THE MAP.
Oh, also, make a brainless or one-brained level in the next build please, that would be cool.
I appreciate the effort Data, but you are being quite the sloth in the release of this next build. It need be said also that it is imperative you edify the map transitions to the player. I don’t think its wise to simply jump into a level without a gradual fade-in effect. If you go without a fade-in you will likely cause a disturbance and a shock when all the sudden a user is struck with a motional scene that may cause minor shock among the faint of heart. Thanks for your time and effort, but I think you should stop being the sloth that you are…
Brainless map would own.
We need survival. >:O
Looks good, glad the damn skeletons can’t screw you up anymore. Also, the new map and background look cool!
YAY! no more annoying skeletons digging through to my brain. That really frustrated me.
@U_F: Dude… I know that you can switch through layers using the “M” key… Im playing CC since it was build 8, I know that stuff…
I also know that the “T” button gold cheat doesnt work anymore
@Osmotician
DID YOU NOT SEE HE WAS GETTING MARRIED
Married
That would put a break on a hobby as time-consuming as this
but he’s still finding time to redo pretty much all of the physics
I appreciate the effort Data, but you are being quite the sloth in the release of this next build. It need be said also that it is imperative you edify the map transitions to the player. I don’t think its wise to simply jump into a level without a gradual fade-in effect. If you go without a fade-in you will likely cause a disturbance and a shock when all the sudden a user is struck with a motional scene that may cause minor shock among the faint of heart. Thanks for your time and effort, but I think you should stop being the sloth that you are…
Osmotician are you an idiot?
Unless you didn’t know he was, if so.
IT’S HIS HOBBY, SHUT UP YOU UGRATEFULL IDIOT.
Yes I got overly mad….
I MEAN If you didn’t know then I don’t know I confused my self….
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I think both of the scenarios fir with:IT’S HIS HOBBY, SHUT UP YOU UGRATEFULL IDIOT, though, lol.
:O:O:O triple post!
Nah I don’t care.
One word about this next build.
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well when I want to add some thing I can’t, so….
Piling up bodies? HAha!
Thats awesome man!
Soonish….Next month!!
And by the sounds of it you’ve only half done all the new stuff, so what is gonna be finished in the next build?
I’m getting pissed off.
Wait about when you have things where a couple pixel are floating in the air? Will you be able to glitch through that? It’d be kinda lame to be stopped by a couple pixels. Also, when things crash hard, is the effect less than before?
^ Personally I think that there must be a way to make it so that small amount of pixels in the air fall down to the ground maybe something like they are at rest till >this much force
Soonish….Next month!!
And by the sounds of it you’ve only half done all the new stuff, so what is gonna be finished in the next build?
I’m getting pissed off
It when from just calm down every one it’s just a game.(Or some thing liek that)To that, lol…
Haha. Wonderful. I can’t wait to see what will come out of this.
One thing that I hope data is including in the next build is the campaign. It doesn’t need a story or anything, but objectives do make the game have more purpose than defending as long as you can. Another thing that’d be fricken sweet is if there was a kill count for every player. There have been plenty of times when me and my friends are trying to figure out who’s killed to the most.
Well anyways, there’s my rant.
I think that the AI needs to be better in order to make the campaign good.
*off topic* omg ive been banned for attempting to make a mod based on the troubles in northern Ireland could an admin or a mod please contact me at xtortion1980@hotmail.co.uk so we can discuss WHY EXACTLY this has got me banned and if i can do anything to get unbanned
@xtortion1980, how can anything be “on topic” here?
yes at last an update on whats going on i thought it would never end
oh and by the way how do you view that particles and and moids counter?
Xtortion1980, how about we discuss it here? You spam nonstop, and flamed someone vehemently. I gave you the MINIMUM of three days.
There is no topic here, it’s just so people can.
1:Be happy about the update coming soon.
2:Be whiny about it non being out yet.
3:Talk/Spam about random stuff cause it has no topic, and it’s not the board.
Data, if you see this try to awnser. Can you give anykinda information about release date where you are trying to aim ? like lets say This weeks thursday – next weeks sunday ( example )
COLY HRAP THATS AUCKING FWESOME!!!
Whupii! Soonish!
BTW, when I first looked at the picture i wondered why there is a green clone in MOIDs that I don’t see there in Color. Soon after that I notice that there is green clone, but it has moved since the Color screenshot. I clever
!
Well anyways then I looked at the clone that is right above brains, and noticed that it is trying to “dance” to the brains, but it seems that because the new physics it can’t dig trough the concrete.
I hate when I die cause they tunnel to my brain when I’m buying some hting….(80% of my deaths. >:O)
yay, more waiting for incredible stuff of unfathomable greatness
Blasphemius not to think so!
Will be the best update evar. Now I can actually have a last stand without them digging through the ground like prison escapees.
Yes it will no more digging=BEST UPDATE EVAR
One thing that I hope data is including in the next build is the campaign. It doesn’t need a story or anything, but objectives do make the game have more purpose than defending as long as you can. Another thing that’d be fricken sweet is if there was a kill count for every player. There have been plenty of times when me and my friends are trying to figure out who’s killed to the most.
Well anyways, there’s my rant.
Lettersix, how exactly is that a rant?
You were just asking him to include a mini campaign, and for campaign you can see any info in the Forum Update Log. There is no doubt, a story.
Right, that’s it. I seem to be checking this more frequently for a sign of Data, and all of you people that want him, he might be working on the game so much to get it done, or tending to his social life.
ALL HAIL DATA ALL HAIL DATA ALL HAIL DATA
Ahem.
Looks good Data, cant wait to have a go.
Tomaster,
It was just a composition of a few things that I wanted to mention so I might remind Data that it would be cool to add those things. In other words, a rant. Just rambling on about stuff I’d like to be heard.
No I 99% doubt hes even CONSIDERING doing that though.
ohhhhhhhhh
Not much of a rant.
If you ask me.
Which you did.
“21GP, care to lend us your thoughts?”
Or something to that effect.
Data, NOW tell us when this will be planned to be released !?!!?!?!
EMPYREAL the only person who i have flamed is Cloudstrife
btw its been over 3 days would really appreciate unbanning
@Karvabopi:
There’s No Way he gives us a release date again. It’s almost impossible to make deadlines for games, since so much can go wrong with computer games. An estimated week would be nice, but a date’s just not possible to give (or at least not a good idea).
I’ve seen some people talking about survival maps. Yes they would be awesome. We already have one of sorts; play the grasslands map as green. You get a lot of earth between the dancing skelintons and your brain.
Exactly, Xtortion. There was no need for it, and you’ve also been spamming.
Yes, you are unbanned now.
Well, I forgot visiting this page for 3 days… why? because now I’m also waiting for Blizzard’s new release. If it is Starcraft 2, it’ll be the coolest game ever, with no exception! And, also I know when it’s coming: Day 19 (Please Data, don’t kill me!, as I love CC I won’t accuse you for the long waitings).
The Blizzard’s front page changes every day, showing one of Blizzard’s important games (well, all games for PC since 1994), today is Diablo 2.
Also, look the background of the page… doesn’t it look like Brood War box’s picture? YEAH!
Check http://www.blizzard.com (but don’t forget about http://www.datarealms.com!)
whoever releases the new build by my birthday on the 30th gets a cookie, *cough*cough*,Data,*cough*. Or you can take your time, whatever.
Data has a rule not to give people a date because time he did, something went wrong and it was postponed
People got Angrrry
True, that happened… but I was not angry with Data, just with the cruel world! D:
Shalafi: that is starcraft ghost. I have been wating for it for 3 years now, and each of the 7 release dates have been postponed. The latest I remember it comming out is oct of last year. But that never happened.
Btw, the game is basically halo + starcraft + badass nukes. Fun
Data, keep working on the new build, make sure all the bugs are out before you release it, we can wait.
oo, awesome!!! a quick question:
how far are we away from having ground vehicles and doors and/or such?
It’d be cool If we had a new mode this build =]. Good work data. Your one of my few Heroes. =D
I hope this gets released by monday.
Digging skeletons 80% of your deaths? More like 90% of mine.
A key point of the AI is going to be actually being able to intelligently navigate through a building, maybe even one which has been built mid-game. When might we see that?
Either way, this looks sweet. I can’t wait.
I just crash a bunch of dropships over my brain, stops them for a while.
@Durza
Yeah but I managed to kill my brain by a dropship which crashed right through it… O_o
(And no it wasnt modified in anyway)
Lolz Nice
I dunno, even though the dancing to the brain is ridiculous, it provides one more route to which they can enter, making the game mor of a challange.
@roflersunited said;
“There is no topic here, it’s just so people can.
1:Be happy about the update coming soon.
2:Be whiny about it non being out yet.
3:Talk/Spam about random stuff cause it has no topic, and it’s not the board.”
I dissagree with the last one! Please do NOT turn the DevLog into a place for spamming, and do not promote such behavior! Posts here should at least relate in some fashion to Data’s update post or to another post (which will hopefully be related to Data’s post or at least CC in general).
Now THAT ^ is closer to a rant.
[inst = rant2.yaya(merf,que?)]
Also, real quick for those who are inconsiderate and can’t stand waiting on Data (haven’t seen much of this, but I’ll say this anyway.);
1. Don’t be jerks. It’s Data’s project and will remain his. His personal life will also remain his, should we allow him to have one. Have a heart.
2. For any major improvements to occur, we must be ready to endure long periods of suffering in which we only have the current build’s mods to keep us busy. Smaller things can be added more easily, but large structural improvements such as those data has been implementing in this next build take time to work out, especially when you have a significant other that deserves your time as well.
[/inst rant]
And data, not to be prying , but I can’t deny myself a bit of curiosity. What is your wife’s opinion on CC? She a gamer? Along that note, what do YOU think about the progress of your amazing game so far?
I’m rambling… in the devlog no less… I must be tired… goodnight!
Ahh cmon stop torturing us release it already xD
Shadow, you want it unfinished now ? or finished version later ?
Well I think I want it finished version…
Then, wait.
lol
What week or moth this could be released?
“What week or moth this could be released?”
WHEN CANADIANS LIVE IN LESS GRAVITY THEN THE REST OF THE WORLD.
the only fun thing about the tunnels was making it so it lead to a perpetual fall to the bottom of the map. Now that this little bit of pleasure is gone, the skeletons will never fight for the brains again…
i hate it when people say they didn’t expect an new update on the dev log. If you didn’t, then why the hell did you check?
@ BANDAID: There is a big difference between logic and hope…
I didn’t expect the new build either, but i’m checking anyway.
…
Gah. When will we see the new shiny build?
i expected a new update, thats why i checked in the first place.
but…
i dont really believe that the build will come owt really soon. Remember a lot of improvements coming to this build and that is sure worth waiting for.
WHEN CANADIANS LIVE IN LESS GRAVITY THEN THE REST OF THE WORLD is now
but there is no build
YOU LIE
Canadians have lower gravity than the rest of the world? Well shit, I’m moving to Canada.
I’m moving too!! they have canadian bacon! Hurah for bacon!
Why? Don’t you know that Astronauts have problems because of the low gravity. And… what if the gravity lows as much as being negative? Then they will be thrown in the space!
Escape from Canada!
Aw, crap…
I need to tie myself to something before I float away…
No, no, no. You won’t be thrown out to space, and the proof I have is taken from the very game this website is based around. “Gravity” as we know it is just the result of two bodies interacting with each other through some kind of [whtvr, don't know the english terms for those things]. So therefore, logicaly, a body with positive mass affected by a negative field of gravity would react in the same way as a body with negative mass in a positive gravity-field. Now as we all know, Cortex Command is the most realistic physic simulation ever made by man, in fact it’s so good that it excells reality. So if we are to make any conclusions around here, they better be testable in the game. And now, what happens if a bullets is set to a negative mass value? That’s right, it’ll go through anything until it’s lifetime ends. So what can we learn by this? Actually, it’s quite simple:
If the gravity in Canada is lowered to a negative value, all people there will sink through the earth at the speed of light for 1500 Plankseconds, after which they’ll akk vanish.
youre a strange man JECA….
i like the new ai “travel here and stay” looks very promising
Yeah people asking for a release date, you do NOT want one. For build 12 I remember every body was checking the site every ten minutes. But as said, an estimate would be nice. (give us it GIVE US IT)
*cough* *cough*
If he gives us an estimate it’s going to end up something like somebody whining because he hasn’t released it and the other side counter-whining that it’s just an estimate…but I still prefer getting the estimate though over not knowing anything and checking this page all the time
they should just finnish the game now. you know. make the last build… they are doing so much allready, so why not finnish it once and for all?
Don’t make us kill you Murahdus.
Because then we’d be waiting too long and my penis would explode.
Nobody wants to see that.
I want to see it.
Set up a webcam.
Oh come on data, it has been 98 days since the last build, about 100 days, stop taunting up
us, not up
treelor –> how would we know that your penis explodes?
A.) we would see blood spurt of of your pants.
B.) youll scream ahh my penis has exploded.
C.) trys to take a piss and realize there is nothing there.
D.) make your own quote (and remember tell us your quote)
and yes it will not be a pretty sight, but do tell us anyways/ =p
Lol @ 3xploited!!
Oh great…now you guys are getting me excited which means I need to check every day!
ROFLMFAO
data, i beg you… i command you.. i ask you… i tell you… to give us number of weeks that within this could be released …
please ?
NO DATA! dont reveal us any info about when it is going to be ready! that would be you biggest mistake since the last time you gave a release date.
And also. I think I speak for every one when I say that we can wait another 100 days. How is it that they say: “Longer you wait, the better it is.” or something… dunno..
I’m only joking ;D
To be honest, I really hope that data isn’t reading this. Because if he did, then there’d take at _least_ another 100 days before the build got done.
Murahdus will you just shut up?! xD
he’s probably not telling us just so he can laugh at our reaction with his wife as a demonstration of his total power over us.
ok ok… maybe i went too far with my joke. but it’s my bday today so i wanted to do something “extreme”
yo guysi t hink this game are the rox00r
Jump off a cliff it would be really extreme XP
Agree.
Agreed. Jumping off cliffs = instant comedy.
Well, I’m willing to wait a nice long time for this for the same reason I’m willing to wait for Spore. Just like they say, the longer it takes, the better it is. Besides, I know I can find stuff to do until it comes out.
Important
————————————————————
This game is about to die if nothing new is added soon it WILL die. My friends are starting to drift away so send us something new or you will lose future dl’ers.
Thank you
-The man who belives
For goodness sake release it already.
I hope he doesn’t. It will be funny to see some tear their hair out over it. He will release it when he thinks it’s ready.
It’s not going to die, he’s still working on it. If there’s anything worth mentioning he’ll probably post an update.
“This game is about to die if nothing new is added soon it WILL die. My friends are starting to drift away so send us something new or you will lose future dl’ers.
Thank you
-The man who belives” HA HA HA HA! I LAUGH AT YOUR STUPIDITY! HA! THIS GAME WILL NEVER DIE! NEVER! HA!
P.S. On a side note, why’d you ban me again? I was obeying the rules!
it actually will eventually… if there is no build. I’m myself are all ready bored of build 13. Data you might want to hurry up, people are loosing hope in y’all. (no offence, I’m a believer) but i am getting more obnoxious =d *guards body as hope of no rapist come to…*
He doesn’t care if you leave. Eventually, when the final build is out and it cost money, the people who buy the game will be all he cares about.
… your point?
Don’t worry about the current community dying. There will always be others who will find the game thrilling after getting bored of their community, and the faithful fans will always be here. I myself, as there hasn’t been a big build for a little while, have been quite inactive at the forum. That’s fine though. As soon as there is a big build, if I have anything to contribute, I’ll come right back.
Of course, I’m a more casual fan, a fan over the long term. I spend much of my time doing other things, but CC never fully leaves my thoughts.
I agree with OMNI (…). For the moment I don’t play Build13 very frequently (glad I’m not the only one waiting for spore too) and you could almost say that I’ve “left” the game, since the only fun thing for the moment is messing around with my friends. However, I’ll certainly come back when the next build is out, and I’ll be sure to send it to everyone that may be interested.
Ah- spore. It was delayed until 2008
. And a while back some said it’d be released in March!
Anyway, I don’t think CC will die. Especially when it wins the next IGF!
I’ll always be here fore you, Cortex Command! *hugs*
Aww, I hadn’t heard about that (spore being delayed). That’s really a pity, as I was expecting it to be for sale before christmas. Still @Joemikkel, the problem is wether a not-complete game can partisipate in the IGF, or if someone would want to participate with a not-complete game. Offcourse I don’t have any idea when it’s gonna be, so I don’t know how much time Data and the team has.
I hope this is out before before saturday, I’m going on holday then, and build 14 will be out of my grasp…
I am sorry I offended you!?!?!?!?!?! I did not mean the game will die; its just it is so borring and I dont think I can bring myself to dl it again. So do my friends. I am a failthfull member I just don’t post much.
Cortex Command will never die!
my name is p3lb0x and i am a cortex command addict. my comp got fried again, again. so i am doomed to this annoying on screen keyboard on the WII and no cortex commanding
Master Pimp, thats a lye. ofc CC is going to die, when sun expands and melts earth and stuff so, it will die eventually.
hmm… think positive thoughts…
ok, first thought. (this is for the recent comments on this)
Comment 182. Karvabopi: CC will never die, all it would do will melt and soon incinerate =D
ok for all of you, if you all are so eager for it to come out you wont be so eager to have the game finished and the game will cost money so you all will sure be able to wait for that cant yah?
my point? you cant wait for the next build but some reason you can wait for the final build and that build will cost money.
hmm… i think there all self-centered, hehe and obnoxious. lol
Comment 177. Slappy Moose: I hope your not in-love with the game, as it may make you gay (refering to either female or male).
Comment 181. Master Pimp: you cant “KILL” a game, either die or kill same thing.
At that raps it up for me, please commenting and ill send you a feedback if necessary. =p
Bah! i cant spell =( Comment 182. Karvabopi: CC will never die, all it would do is melt and soon incinerate.
i feel like im spamming but treelor hasnt answered the question i gave him A, B, C, or D??
You guys need to sleep. -.-’
It’s not like he’s gonna release the new build at 3AM.
(Or is he? 0.o)
infact im not ready to pay money for the final because there would no way i could pay :/ ( no bank cards etc. )
I thought he was gonna sell it in stores? or have i got this whole thing wrong?! Then i’m having the same problem as Karvabopi!! (aww,man)
…. Demetrius its not planned that hes going to sell it in stores… duh… its just a thing that ppl has thinked about !
Damn….
no, i just did it to disturb people and make them wait for the new build!
whoops…
Well, I’m betting CC will die before the human race dies. After all, we may be able to move into space and data can get lost. (The english word data, not Data.) I think over the time it takes for us to become a spacefaring multi-world race all remnants of CC’s code will be lost. Of course, its possible Data will become a famous game maker in which case his early games could have significant value.
Still, it’s not gonna die any time soon. I’ll probably have a copy on a disk ’til the day I die.
And Jeca, good to know I’m not alone! Just call me Omni. I stick my Omnimmotus name on there only so others can more easily find and contact me.
as how is this part of the topic ‘Intact walls’?
intact walls wow how awesome as it should be. Not disturbing Data about there game dying! For all you people, please start a topic that doesnt disturb Data and there creation, magical creation.
Omni, Jeez i didnt know you were alone, omg whos talking right now i wonder? A SPEC!?!?!
ive done my job =p
Right at it 3xploited!
I actually laughed at that message, even though only for a short time. And to be honest I think people post stuff about CC dying because there’s nothing better to post. It seems a lot of people (myself included) pos a response in here as long as there’s something to respond too. And since there aren’t any news about CC worthy of getting a response (no pun intended) it’s not a mystery if the posts seems a tad offtopic. But honestly I don’t think that really matters. When there are major news about CC, data always creates a new topic, so there will always be on-topic posts at the top.
Oh, and I’d so love to see a Cortex Command for sale in stores! Just the sight would be worth paying for. And if people are worried about not having credit cards, ask your parents. When I want to make some pay-download, I give them the money it costs and they buy it for me. So unless you have paranoid or pacifistic parents, I’m sure you could work it out somehow. Also remember that it probably will take some time for the final version will be out (whoever suggested to make build 14 the final version can’t really be that fond to the game).
sweet, cannot wait data, I just cant! I was thinking though that you could make the enemies vary? Such as on easy mode a small number of skeles and clones come. Medium is the same but with more of each. Hard is no skeles and loads of clones with a few robots and death is tonnes of everything. Just a suggestion… thanks for the update, liking the new map
I was wondering whats taking so long? Did you find a major bug or something or you just making soo much new stuff that we get all bored or we die before it comes.
Seriously Data, what the heck is taking so freaking long?
I dont think he will release build 14… I think it will be build 16 or something…. He added so much more stuff then he planned
Yeah so he’ll just skip numbers for no reason, HURRRRR
I can’t wait for this build, the tunneling thing has been my biggest beef with CC so far.
retro you can wait, if you cant wait , well you be in data’s hands and be nagged by numerous amounts of people and thats not INCLUDING me. I can wait.
did treelor take to much viagra or something?
Yeah the only real thing I never liked about CC was tunneling. It was fun to watch, but to actually play I had to make my brains invincible. For anybody that wants to do that for now,
go into Data Realms\Cortex Command\Base.rte\Actors\Brains\
Then open the config file and change
GetsHitByMOs = 1
to
GetsHitByMOs = 0
Not sure if you guys know how to do this already, just thought I would post a little reminder if you dont like tunneling. They just make a massive pit!!!
he should at least update frequently, instead of letting every page go above 250 posts
Thanks for the tip batesman, but if I change it to, say, 10 instead of 1, will that make the brain stronger? Cause I want to be able to lose, just not so easily.
No, it wont make it stronger and it will make the game crash
When you set it to 0 its like “Flase” so it will be:
GetsHitByMOS = Flase, thus it will be not be hit by anything, not even by a nuke or a map wipe
When you set it to 1 its like “True” so it will be:
GetsHitByMOS = True, thus it will be hit by everything there is, like: Bullets, actors, rockets, fragments, etc.
So when you set it to 0 your brain goes into “God mode” kind of phase… Yeah…
Understood?
hope so, or hes just stupid (no offence)
i need new update, this topic has ended up, once again… POINTLESS! Nothing to do with Intact walls however.
If you want to make your brain stronger, simply go into the same file, and change [Health = 100] into something like [health = 1337]. You’ll also want to change GibWoundLimit into something higher, since that value determines how many hits a MOID can take before it instadies.
I’ve noticed that brains seem to die after they’ve taken 100 damage…… not after they’ve died…..?
You have to change the Wound Limit, because it is 10, and if it gets 10 shots then it dies.
Yeah just make the health really high, but still be aware that the brain can still gib, so I reckon that if you did put it to 1337, it would smash at around 500 damage (random guess). I don’t think you can make it stronger any other way.
Cool though huh?
Why would you like a strong yet destroyable brain when you can have a god mode one? And if it is “GetsHitByMOS = 0″ none of the enemies will shoot it, they will just start diggin over it and then point at it and do nothing
If you don’t change the GibWoundLimit, it’ll die after approx 90 points of damage. Myself I have both GibWoundLimit and GibImpulseLimit (they’re the last values of the Actor, or any other objects too for that matter, so just scroll down to the bottom) set to negative numbers, which will prevent the brain from being killed due to gibs. Also I’ve changed the entrywound to create a huge amount of hardened liquid, almost acting like a shield for the brain, but that’s another story.
I enjoy coming here solely to read your elegant banter from which I derived the name of the word “elebante”. Keep it up Data!
hmm, nifty.
Important note: As long as you people are still here arguing about it CC is not dead.
I wonder if the new AI settings will help keep all of the AI bots from TRYING to dig to the brain. Besides digging, somethng else that bugged me was how they didn’t put up a fight when they were, because their guns were pointing at the ground. Also, I can’t wait to see how the AI handles its own digging (with the digger). I want to see of the bots can do a better job than we can.
I’m prepared to wait. I can go around and play other games while I wait for CC. All I have to do is anxiously check the devlog every few days, but I don’t have to stop eating and stare at the devlog all day while complaining that “the community’s going to die”.
we need more variables in the ini files!
I’d want a destroyable brain with lots of health so that when playing with friends we can actually run or the brain and go for it, instead of just agreeing, “Ok, no brain destroying.”
@lettersix: Then change the GibWoundLimit and the GibImpulseLimit to a negative number and increase the health to something like 5000.
ok, i’m getting a bit impatient. I wait alot, but at least an update would be nice. Seriusly, data, some kind of update?
cant you just put the brain off the map and dont have one at all. all they do is walk in one direction, no digging.
Your doing a grand job so keep it up and im sure that everyone ecos me in saying Thanks for giving us an awesome game!
Oh, god, gross, ew, ew, ew.
Goddamnit Data. You just made it happen. You just made my penis explode.
I’m going to slit my wrists now.
you’d die before you even think of trying to slit your wrists
Hmmm. Maybe Data should start commenting his code.
Data, don’t try to cram everything into one build, that is exactly why nearly every sequel to a Half-Life mod is failing, all the developers care about is cramming everything into the initial release. (Take Sven-Coop 2 for an example)
@CARP is right. I thnk he’s losing lots of players/moders/buyers
MORE VARIABLES!
I agree with The Village Headcrab…
Yeah. If development goes on for too long, then everything is in there, but it could have lots of problems when it is finally released.
Well, time to shoot myself.
I agree with you foogooman, but i did it long time ago and i had to go to hospital for a looong time.
yeah data dont try to compress everything on this build
Does anyone else think data should have released the new AI before working on this?
Where is Data anyway? Not to be a whiny fanboy or anything, but he hasn’t posted here in a while.
Yup
yea !
What I checked there isnt even a single comment from data to this post. Maybe he died or something?
That would suck, dying right after a wedding?
Worst of all, that means we wouldn’t get the new Cortex Command! AAAAAAAAAAGH!
Just kidding Data.
What really sucks is dieing BEFORE a wedding.
Or the day of your wedding.
Or dying on Christmas Day…
@Crap:
Ey! Don’t mess with the name.
actually dying any day
# Toonyman – # May 27th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
I agree with you foogooman, but i did it long time ago and i had to go to hospital for a looong time.
OMFG ?!?!?! is Toonyman back !?!!?!?!?
where the hell has he been ??
Toonyman are you back!?
Holy hell! Where have you been!??!?
Ontopic..
Looks nice! Can’t wait, keep up the good work Data!
Actually, if you’re dead, I don’t think you’ll be in a state where you can complain about your date-of-death…
RUUUUAARRRRRRR 250 C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Here is a simple question that no one can answer I think. When is the new build coming?
Why is everybody talking about when they don’t want to die if this is a development log?
Soon
See, I just answered it
Lets hope you are right.
This community is going to explode with joy when this thing comes out
…At least I know I am.
@rottencod: Because they don’t want to die before build14 is out. Wait. What if you die 5 min before the new build is out O_o If that’s the case, I actually think that you /can/ complain about your date-of-death. And no, Data hasn’t died. You remember him talking about the other members of the team? I don’t think they’d let us go unnoticed (although it wouldn’t be the first thing I would’ve thought of if my friend just died).
@block
hell yeah!
I hope you don’t let eager fans rush the build, but is there any way for an updated eta?
Rush the build..? Rush… the build…? IT’S TAKING FOREVER! YOU THINK THIS IS RUSHED?! *SPLODE*
@ bollinator
is there any reason why you think this build is rushed, the build is OBVIOUSLY not rushed as its been ages for it to be here!
And I hope when he’s finished he just camps on releasing it for 3 days
WHAT!?!?!?
Cnn reports Small Suburban riots with adolesecent teens Chanting Build 14. more at 11. Rushing I don’t hear any kekeke’s.
Um…is the forum down for anybody else?
Sorry for the double post, but it’s back again.
Ugh, never mind, it’s down again. Are you doing something with the forum, Wizard James?
He said something (I think) on IRC about upgrading the forum.
- The-Masses
Ah, okay. Thanks, The-Masses.
And sorry for the triple post.
hwz itz goingz peoplez =D
Who are you? ProjektTHOR?
oh… my… god… I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE !!!!!!
Guys, let’s be serious here. He just got married. He’s still having sex. Give him time.
Its been
DAMN!!!!
I was going to say:
Its been almoast month, I think he had more than enough sex
lol. This is freaking the longest Time I can remember between builds.
MaximDude – # May 29th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
DAMN!!!!
I was going to say:
Its been almoast month, I think he had more than enough sex
hahahaha i rofled!
but seriosly the build better be good. its been a long! time!
I cant wait for it, but it will also be anoying to edit all of my/other peoples mods to fit the new game. And I thought 11 and 12/13 were more widely spaced than this. Plus he has a life too, its probably not all circled around cc.
*cough*
GIVE. BUILD. NOW.
God whens the forum gonna be back up?
This waiting sucks pretty much I just come here everyday with hope that the new version had come but no, they just dont release it…
Ah, shit. Forum’s down. Craptacular.
Data, you better be having enough sex for the rest of your life, because from now on, you must do NOTHING but new releases. I want a freakin’ autoupdate running once a day!
“274# MaximDude – # May 29th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
DAMN!!!!
I was going to say:
Its been almoast month, I think he had more than enough sex
”
i have never tried sex but from what i hear you can never get enough of it
Aye. My gf won’t let me do anything till she is 18. argh…
Oh well, we can still do other stuff *wink*
Hey folks, cool it. His pesonal life is his business. If he wanted you all trying to pry into it he wouldn’t be running a videogame blog. His business with his wife is his own business.
I’m just as anxious as the rest of you but if all you can do is sit around and wait for the new build and complain that it’s not out, you need to get some more hobbies.
Also, you must realize that the physics are at the core of the game. He’s probably having to fix things so they work right with the new physics. Considering how long getting this far has taken, going through all that code to isolate bugs is probably quite a job.
I just realized exactly how hard it is to imagine cortex command without skeletons digging… We’ve gotten so used to it. I wonder if the improved physics will keep rockets from being able to crash through stuff as well? I hope the effect isn’t too dramatic, because that is one of the funnest things to do in the game…
It’s sure going to feel different… I wonder if there’s any work on the stage editor yet?
I’m starting to get bored of cc right now…
RELEASE THIS BUILD NOW!
*snore*
ahh… jeez…
Data are you having a snooze like i was, COME ON! your not sleeping on the job are you!?! you better not!
Have fun, because we sure ‘AINT’
rofl! I havent been checking this much anymore because my hopes are gone *sniff* *sniff*
Alight, surely he’s implementing that turret and whatnot. I don’t see why else it would take SO FREAKING LONG TO THE POINT WHERE I WANT TO BITE MY FINGERS OFF ONE AT A TIME TO EASE THE PAIN OF WAITING FOR THE NEW RELEASE
painful…
he might be dead and noone has thought to post a message in here.
data crushes souls =[. I don’t like him =/.
Whaaaaa?! YOU DONT LIKE DATA?